War brides, they were called and she was one of the very first—if not the first. But later on she met...well, we met wonderful Japanese family in...they lived in Luecadia, California, that's just north of Encinatas, where our home was. The Ito family, the mother and father had 3 kids or more...wonderful family and they took us in...

Our daughter was born in La Jolla in 1952, I believe. She'll probably be mad, cause she doesn't look that age. But anyway, she - Hamako never had contact with babies, she didn't know what to do and Mrs. Ito taught her how to bathe the child and how to put diapers on and we became very close with them and to this day, one of the Ito family girls is still a good friend of my wife's.

So we stayed kind of half-way Japanese, and my family...I had aunts and uncles all gathered when Hamako and I first came to Solano Beach and they welcomed her with open arms. Just a few months ago, they were...Hamako was an enemy alien but there was nothing...she never heard the word "Jap," she never experienced any racial hatred and the family just loved her and my father liked her better than me, I know that.