Kiyo was, again, this outspoken person in the sense that when the government sent — this is during the redress period, during the late 1980s — the spokesperson came to the JCCNC (Japanese Chamber of Commerce of Northern California) center here, community center. And while he was speaking, my sister went right up and showed him this one document that says, each of us have this, that says that we were arrested by the FBI. And surprisingly he said, on the spot, that, "You qualify." So like we were kind of shocked. The other Japanese Peruvians that were there didn't have the same papers.

We all have it somewhere, yes, every one. They give one to individuals, not a whole family, it's individual.

The key was the letter of apology from Ronald Reagan, and to receive the twenty thousand.