After the war ended, my dad wanted to come back to L.A. and he was he was thinking that he was going to come back by himself and test the waters and that kind of thing. But my mother said, no, no. So we all came back and we lived in East L.A. next door to some of their old friends. It was a duplex.

And then my mom, as I mentioned, was and always had a head for business. So they went looking for business and they found a Japanese couple that owned a dry cleaners and they went ahead and bought the dry cleaners even though they knew nothing about dry cleaning. And it was at Fifth and Indiana in East L.A. and so we that's where we started.

And my dad learned how to do the pressing of the clothes and, you know, that kind of thing. And my mom learned a lot about cleaning different, you know, fabrics and what and my job was to write down and do all the, the, the taking down of the clients’ needs, customers’ needs and, and then putting those little paper protective covers on the hangers so that you could put your pants over, hang over there.

And then we had this little room in the back of the of the dry cleaners that we made kind of like a second home. And that’s where we cooked and ate meals. And there was a little place there for me to have take a nap and that sort of thing.