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Creating a registry to study the outcome of transplants

We studied the outcome of transplants, and we wanted to know if we matched the people, what would be the outcome if they mismatched the person’s [race]. And also, if they mismatched for one type and another type for another type, does it make a difference? So out of that, we needed to get data. We needed to find out what happened after transplant. So we created this registry, 1970, and it still exists today1.

The registry is to collect the data of the patients, the transplant patients, after being transplanted and to see how they are. So every year we would ask them, ask the center, how the patient was doing. And from this, then, we could look at different factors—as you mentioned, race of the donor. For example, the size of the donor, we found that if the donor’s too small, kidney’s too small, then it puts an extra stress on the kidney and the kidney doesn’t last as long as a larger kidney. Also, if the kidney is from an old person, a lot of the nephrons2 are damaged. So when you put the kidney in, it doesn’t work as well. So all of these different factors that we’ve looked for. Sometimes, the Black patients, there’s a lower graft level. And we don’t know exactly what that has to do. Some of it might be socio-economic conditions, but others might be inherent—strong immune response that was able to react against the kidney. So, it’s been sort of a gold mine.

We’ve had the registry at UCLA. And then subsequently, the government set up what’s called the UNOS Registry. And from 1987 to 1999, we had the UNOS Registry. So [we] collected data from every patient. And the UNOS Registry is unusual in the world in that it requires every transplant patient to be registered. There’s no other treatment in medicine that is like this, where from the registry, you can study all these various factors in transplantation. And I think it’s very unique. It’s the only disease related registry and the only one in the world that’s compulsory—means that every transplant that some surgeon, if he does it, has to report it. And also, the government has a way where if he does not report it, he does not get paid. So it’s a very important kind of activity that has been going on the last 20 years.

1. In 1970 Dr. Terasaki was instrumental in the creation of the UCLA Kidney Transplant Registry. Later it evolved into the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) Kidney Transplant Registry.

2. Nephrons are the basic functional units of the Kidney. There are about one million nephrons in each kidney.


medicine

Date: February 10, 2004

Location: California, US

Interviewer: Gwenn M. Jensen

Contributed by: Watase Media Arts Center, Japanese American National Museum.

Interviewee Bio

Paul Terasaki, born in 1929, is a UCLA Medical Professor Emeritus and a pioneer in tissue transfer research who continues to speak globally on tissue typing and organ transplantation. In 1991 he edited a volume entitled History of Transplantation: Thirty-five Recollections.

He and his wife Hisako, a renowned painter, take a strong interest in U.S.-Japan relations and the affairs of the Japanese American community. Together they established an endowment at the UCLA Asian American Studies Center to fund fellowships for UCLA graduate students from Japan pursuing research on the historical and contemporary experiences and issues of the Japanese American population. Additionally, a Paul I. Terasaki Endowed Chair in U.S.-Japan Relations supports a distinguished teaching program designed to bring experts in the field of Japanese studies and U.S.-Japan relations to UCLA. (February 10, 2004)

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